Trump demands 25% tariff on any iPhone not made in the US

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  • Reply 21 of 91
    Alreschaalrescha Posts: 34member
    NickoTT said:
    Is it even legal to tariff a specific company? 
    Targeting a company would seem to be a clear violation of the concept of "Equal Protection" as found in the U.S. Constitution.  Put simply, laws are supposed to apply to everyone, equally.  As pointed out by others, the current administration doesn't seem to care about such trivialities.
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  • Reply 22 of 91
    So dumb....OMG. Why not just say that to every company? It's like the dumbest mob boss ever was given control of the country.
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  • Reply 23 of 91
    Honestly, the more I think about it, it's obvious that companies just need ignore the old senile man and meet his threats in court. 
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  • Reply 24 of 91
    davendaven Posts: 770member
    Well since Trump got in office again my retirement investments have dropped over 20% so it looks like I’ll pay 20% less in taxes when I make my withdrawals. By the way, why doesn’t Trump make his swag in the USA? His shoes are made in Vietnam and his Bibles in China. Really? We don’t have print shops. In the USA? Sad that small government Republicans are all for micromanaging individual companies such as America’s largest taxpayer Apple.
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  • Reply 25 of 91
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,459member
    It's also interesting to ponder the implications of imposing a tariff on a specific product designed by a specific American company but manufactured abroad, while not imposing the same tariff on competing products from, say a Korean company. What exactly is such a policy supposed to be accomplishing? 
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  • Reply 26 of 91
    Boy, $1M donations don’t go very far these days.
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  • Reply 27 of 91
    AppleZulu said:
     What exactly is such a policy supposed to be accomplishing? 
    It makes ol' mushroom dick feel like a REAL MAN. Grrrrrr...

    Well, that and the money he makes shorting AAPL then changing his mind of course. The US is run by a man whose only interest is bleeding it dry for his own profit. And Americans voted for this?
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  • Reply 28 of 91
    davendaven Posts: 770member
    I’m ok with a 25% tariff…. Just make it 100% deductible on Apple’s income tax on a a 1:1 basis.
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  • Reply 29 of 91
    Steve Humistonsteve humiston Posts: 29unconfirmed, member
    He has the grammar of a 2nd grader.. iphone's?

    FFS .. the ignorant fuck is the US president
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  • Reply 30 of 91
    JMaillejmaille Posts: 31member
    daven said:
    I’m ok with a 25% tariff…. Just make it 100% deductible on Apple’s income tax on a a 1:1 basis.
    No it won't be tax deductible by Apple, because Apple won't be paying the Tariff.  You or anyone else who buys an iPhone will pay the Tariff.  

    People need to stop thinking this way.  It is not the other countries or the companies importing the products that pay the tariffs.  It is the American Consumer that pays the tariff.






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  • Reply 31 of 91
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,106member
    We deserve the leadership we have—from both isles. You all seem to think there are only 2 choices and until you realize neither party has your best interest and the only interests they serve is AIPAC/zios and billionaire class, it will only get worse. (watch, some zip will complain and I’ll be moderated. Meanwhile, the evidence is plain as day but you all continue to bury your heads in the sand. 
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  • Reply 32 of 91
    Extortion?  Backtracking?  Did no one learn anything from January 6?  

    Remember Richard Nixon's comment to David Frost:  If the President does it, it's not illegal.

    Nixon's party of law and order, fiscal responsibility and small government has been completely co-opted by a conman.  Voters have put this party in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches, and the fact that most members of the judiciary hew toward this party's views means the President can do whatever he wants.
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  • Reply 33 of 91
    Extortion?  Backtracking?  Did no one learn anything from January 6?  

    Remember Richard Nixon's comment to David Frost:  If the President does it, it's not illegal.

    Nixon's party of law and order, fiscal responsibility and small government has been completely co-opted by a conman.  Voters have put this party in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches, and the fact that most members of the judiciary hew toward this party's views means the President can do whatever he wants.
    Indeed. The question my friends and I in the UK ask, is at what point is the US technically a dictatorship? 
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  • Reply 34 of 91
    Apple is the worst stock performer YTD among Magnificant 7 anyway. 

    Trump gives a good reason why Tim Cook may stay as CEO at Apple although his performance as CEO has been poor for years. 

    Rotten Apple can justify that it is Trump´s fault for bad performance on the stock market. 

    Trump can blame on Apple for higher unemployment rate because Apple does not move their production to the US. 

    Still hard to believe that US Americans elected Trump as the US president. 

    US Americans have been brainwashed anyway. They don´t get any proper education. 

    Apple is rotten. The US "small" government is rotten. And the majority of the US Americans still likes it. 
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  • Reply 35 of 91
    JMaillejmaille Posts: 31member
    fred1 said:
    The reasons given that prevent iPhones from being made in the US - “there is not the required skilled labor, there is not a supply of the rare minerals needed, and there are no facilities.” - can be dealt with, but would take years to implement. It’s not impossible, but the overnight change the Orange Man wants can’t happen.  Does he really not understand this? 
    No, it really is impossible.  Building products like an iPhone or iPad in the United States requires changes in many parts of American society that are not under Apple's control.  Just the ones you mentioned: Skilled labor requires, at a minimum, changes to the educational system not to mention the motivations of American workers, rare minerals , at a minimum, equire changes to regulations and the government's approach to mining operations, the lack of facilities requires, at a minimum, additional changes to regulations, changes to the motivations of other companies, and on and on.

    For Apple to move manufacturing to the United States requires a stable economy and significant action by other people, other companies, state and local governments, and the United States Federal Government.  In short, for Apple to move manufacturing to the Unties States requires a competent Federal Administrative Branch of the United  States, run by a competent individual who makes intelligent decisions based on facts.

    So long as we have the current moron in chief with his gaggle of sycophants and fools and a country apparently populated by a significant number of people that thinks said moron, sycophants, and fools are doing a good job, it is literally impossible for Apple to move manufacturing to the United States.

    Stop trying to argue otherwise -- it's just normalizing the behavior of the idiots.

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  • Reply 36 of 91
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 522member, administrator, moderator, editor
    Extortion?  Backtracking?  Did no one learn anything from January 6?  

    Remember Richard Nixon's comment to David Frost:  If the President does it, it's not illegal.

    Nixon's party of law and order, fiscal responsibility and small government has been completely co-opted by a conman.  Voters have put this party in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches, and the fact that most members of the judiciary hew toward this party's views means the President can do whatever he wants.
    Indeed. The question my friends and I in the UK ask, is at what point is the US technically a dictatorship? 
    Oh, we crossed the literal definition around January 20th with the signing of dozens of executive orders. Now whether anyone wants to admit it is a whole different discussion.

    From Britannica:
    dictatorship, form of government in which one person or a small group possesses absolute power without effective constitutional limitations. The term dictatorship comes from the Latin title dictator, which in the Roman Republic designated a temporary magistrate who was granted extraordinary powers in order to deal with state crises. Modern dictators, however, resemble ancient tyrants rather than ancient dictators. Ancient philosophers’ descriptions of the tyrannies of Greece and Sicily go far toward characterizing modern dictatorships. Dictators usually resort to force or fraud to gain despotic political power, which they maintain through the use of intimidation, terror, and the suppression of basic civil liberties. They may also employ techniques of mass propaganda in order to sustain their public support.
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  • Reply 37 of 91
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,045member
    We are witnessing exactly what would happen if we let a single 5th grader take total control of a nuclear power plant. 
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  • Reply 38 of 91
    muaddibmuaddib Posts: 86member
    Tim Apple just needs to give Trump a one of kind iPhone 17 Pro Max made out of 14k gold and all of Apple's problems will quietly go away.   
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  • Reply 39 of 91
    hugo62hugo62 Posts: 9member
    Boy, $1M donations don’t go very far these days.
    Thats what happens when your dance with the devil….
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  • Reply 40 of 91
    hugo62hugo62 Posts: 9member
    The sooner this manchild is called out by corporate America, the sooner we can all get back to normal. Otherwise America is going to be the main looser in all of this. European consumption of American goods and services is plummeting. Tesla sale in some EU counties is down 80%. Coca Cola sale are in free fall. McDonalds in UK has seen a 20% drop in sale since Jan. Travel from Europe to America is down 30% in 2025. Europeans historically have spent trillions of $ on American goods and services, and people are now buying local to spite the manchild… i suspect corporate America is hurting and will continue to do so.
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